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cll666
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« on: March 13, 2011, 12:00:47 AM »
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Hey guys I'm new to this forum but noticed you have an automotive section here. So a little bit about me is that I am 22 in college in a northeastern state. I am looking to buy a new car(with a little financing from my parents as a graduation gift) and I pretty much have my sights set on the 2010 Volkwagen GTD diesel as it is a small hatchback with great mileage. The only thing is I don't know much about diesel fuel and would like to get your inputs on the pros and cons of using diesel. thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2011, 07:08:02 AM »
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I know some diesels get Great mileage--say, 50+  mpg. You can even burn bio-fuel (glycerol) to save $3.59 per gallon.  I know to avoid early Mercedes diesels, they lack power. The newer ones with Turbo are OK.

EDIT:  I've heard of diesels being slow to start in cold weather--I'm not sure if they've solved this problem or not.

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I have a Love/Hate relationship with my current car. I have a 2001 Volkswagen Jetta TDI (Turbo Diesel Injected).

I love the fact that this car get 60mpg on the highway (40-42 in town). I love that it burns diesel. I've made my own biodiesel and put it in the car. Works great!

I hate that Volkswagens are so freakin' expensive for parts/service.

If I drove more miles (I only drive about 6k per year), I'd get a small diesel pickup from Europe and drive THAT! Why we can't build more diesels here in the states is beyond me!!!


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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2012, 09:15:47 AM »
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Diesel is often cheaper and it often gives you more power. Diesel is great because you don't have to worry about ignition/spark problems. And yes, bio-diesel is a great way to save a ton of money if you can get your hands on enough used veggie oil. A buddy of mine even started burning used motor oil (mixed with a little bit of gasoline), but that's a much more complicated setup.
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2012, 09:18:11 AM »
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as for diesels being hard to start in cold weather, that shouldn't be a problem if it's equipped with glow plugs.
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2012, 05:33:21 AM »
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Diesel is awesome! Unless you want to race. A diesel produces way more power at same consumption as usual gasengines. The only problem you can't ignite a Diesel at 12k rpm, that's why they don't work with a Formula1 car. If you need to travel long distances A diesel is cheaper, quiter and smoother to drive. And the old mercedes diesels are great too. And they don't lack power at all. They are meant to be a smooth car. Take BMW for example, they don't want to make their cars smooth, that why you have stiff handling and higher tuned engines.
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2012, 03:30:47 PM »
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Old diesels are loud but they are built to last!
I have a diesel and never looked back to gas
It's cheaper and way more fuel efficient
But maintaining it may cost more
An oil change for example
Diesel engines uses 2-3 times more oil
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2013, 10:31:57 PM »
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Diesel :)
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2013, 11:23:26 AM »
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I had a 1981 diesel VW Rabbit, in which I logged over 100k miles. If I remember correctly, at that time, diesel was approx. the same price as unleaded gasoline. Though I thoroughly enjoyed the vehicle, there were some distinct advantages and disadvantages:

+ mileage was outstanding; not quite what the manufacturer claimed, but still much better than any other car I'd owned...including a Honda CVCC.
+ diesel doesn't pose the fire danger that gasoline does, so you can safely carry a spare fuel can on board.
+ very little maintenance was required; my diesel had glow plugs instead of spark plugs.
+ it could also run on home heating fuel; though technically, it was against the law to do so.
+ my Rabbit had approx. a 10-11 gallon fuel tank; when the Winter temps neared approx. 10 degrees F, I'd add one gallon of unleaded to every
  9 -10 gallons of diesel; it worked like a charm.

- diesels have a lot of torque, but they tend to lack the quick acceleration of a gas engine.
- there weren't as many diesel pumps available at the gas stations, then, as there are today.
- at approx. 10 degrees F., diesel fuel begins to jell; so in Winter, if you're not buying fuel that has already been winterized, you need to keep an
   eye on the weather and put an additive in your fuel tank when the temperature nears that magic number.
- once the fuel has jelled in the line, nothing short of getting the car into a warm garage will get it running again.
- when you do need to take a VW to the dealership, parts and service can be a little expensive; but then, so can Toyota's.
- they sound like a tractor; though it kind of grows on you.

Also, some things to consider:
- in order to comply with EPA standards, I believe that most diesels sold in the U.S. today have a urea/ammonia reservoir incorporated into the
  exhaust system. My buddy just showed me his new 2013 Chev Diesel Truck (believe it's an Isuzu designed engine) and it had a big 3 gallon urea/
  ammonia tank on the passenger side of the engine compartment against the firewall.  Of course, a VW's would probably be
  smaller. Chevy also now has a passenger car on the market with a 4 cylinder turbo diesel (believe it's an Opel designed engine).
- most places I've been over the last couple years, diesel fuel usually costs a little more than gasoline.
- some diesel engines require and have installed in them two batteries; giving more power to start the engine.
- if the diesel fuel is not low in sulfur, depends on where it comes from, you can find yourself changing the engine oil more often.
+ in third world countries or in regions of the world that are undergoing economic crisis, gasoline can often times be in short supply. But,
  because diesel is required to keep farm equipment, trains, ships, furnaces, etc. running, you can usually obtain it somewhere....for a price.
+ a well built diesel engine should be good for 250 k miles, at least.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2013, 02:01:18 AM »
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i have a diesel car it starts like wiz in winter or summer. Never had any problem with starting the vehicle or fuel consumption
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2014, 04:49:42 AM »
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The newer ones with Turbo are OK
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2014, 02:59:57 AM »
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Just TDI  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2014, 11:24:41 AM »
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I prefer diesel cars, better than TDI
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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2014, 04:25:44 AM »
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If you don't live in a very cold weather diesel is your best bet
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2015, 08:58:18 AM »
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i've never had any problem with diesel engine so far
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2015, 12:09:36 PM »
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I haven't diesel car sorry, but I want one :(
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